vsrinir
05-04 03:15 PM
I got Soft LUD on 04/28/09 for me and all dependents.
I am EB3/India/PD:10/2004
I am EB3/India/PD:10/2004
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chanduv23
02-01 01:14 PM
H1B problems have nothing to do with retrogression.
If H1B employees are being mistreated by a certain class of employers, then what does that have to do with shortage of visa numbers?
Nothing.
Misuse and abuse of H1B program did not cause retrogression. And if the abuse ends, its not going to end retrogression. The H1B program does provide ammunition to anti-immigrants to use that paint-brush and paint the entire program of H1B and Employment based GC as bad. Fortune 500 companies dont engage in unethical behavior. The TCS, Wipro etc maybe do that. Small bodyshops certainly do that. I am yet to see a small body-shop, operated by a citizen of foriegn origin, working by the book and treating employees well.
But all said and done, these things make our life more difficult and exacerbate the situation that arose from retrogression. However, these things didnt cause retrogression.
At the most, these issues of H1B abuse may have provided support to some groups in keeping the H1B quota down. However, it has nothing to do with EB quota. In fact, IEEE-USA advocates bringing down H1B quota and RAISING the employment based GC quota, in order to remove factors that encourage employer abuse.
U have the point.
These issues are not causes for retrogression, but these issues make it difficult to fix retrogression.
IV moderators and members must not encourage things like "ABC company not paying bench salary for my wife though he took 3k from me to file for h1 and is holding her paystubs etc"" These are the things that will make it difficult to fix retrogression - in these kind of situations it is both employer and employee at fault.
If H1B employees are being mistreated by a certain class of employers, then what does that have to do with shortage of visa numbers?
Nothing.
Misuse and abuse of H1B program did not cause retrogression. And if the abuse ends, its not going to end retrogression. The H1B program does provide ammunition to anti-immigrants to use that paint-brush and paint the entire program of H1B and Employment based GC as bad. Fortune 500 companies dont engage in unethical behavior. The TCS, Wipro etc maybe do that. Small bodyshops certainly do that. I am yet to see a small body-shop, operated by a citizen of foriegn origin, working by the book and treating employees well.
But all said and done, these things make our life more difficult and exacerbate the situation that arose from retrogression. However, these things didnt cause retrogression.
At the most, these issues of H1B abuse may have provided support to some groups in keeping the H1B quota down. However, it has nothing to do with EB quota. In fact, IEEE-USA advocates bringing down H1B quota and RAISING the employment based GC quota, in order to remove factors that encourage employer abuse.
U have the point.
These issues are not causes for retrogression, but these issues make it difficult to fix retrogression.
IV moderators and members must not encourage things like "ABC company not paying bench salary for my wife though he took 3k from me to file for h1 and is holding her paystubs etc"" These are the things that will make it difficult to fix retrogression - in these kind of situations it is both employer and employee at fault.
bugsbunny
04-17 03:00 PM
Looks like you are one of the beneficiaries of H1 who does not have good education. You can console yourself with the word 'skill' and all that computer jargon The bottomline is H1B visa is for professionals.
Stop making personal attacks.
You know nothing about me or my education or my skills.
By resorting to personal attacks to try and support you arguments you have revealed your level of character and intelligence in how debates are conducted.
I don't support IT bodyshops and that fraud should stop.
If you believe you have proof of shady practices then report them to USCIS.
Stop making personal attacks.
You know nothing about me or my education or my skills.
By resorting to personal attacks to try and support you arguments you have revealed your level of character and intelligence in how debates are conducted.
I don't support IT bodyshops and that fraud should stop.
If you believe you have proof of shady practices then report them to USCIS.
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sbabunle
08-19 04:11 PM
Right on bro
((Frustration + Malice - Grace) * Jealousy) ^ (Low linguistic skills) = This post
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((Frustration + Malice - Grace) * Jealousy) ^ (Low linguistic skills) = This post
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we_can
02-08 08:10 AM
Yes US Post Doc (without US MS or PhD) might not qualify under SKIL. But on the other had, a post doc might have enough publications and such under his/her belt to try to go for EB1.
we_can
Post doc is a position not a US educational qualification and hence not a benefitiary of SKIL bill. The SKIL bill included US Master's and Ph.D's.
With your US MS you should not have any problem. Would require 3 years work experience to allow one to self adjust. We will need to wait and see what happens when it is introduced again in the new congress.
we_can
Post doc is a position not a US educational qualification and hence not a benefitiary of SKIL bill. The SKIL bill included US Master's and Ph.D's.
With your US MS you should not have any problem. Would require 3 years work experience to allow one to self adjust. We will need to wait and see what happens when it is introduced again in the new congress.
maddipati1
12-31 02:20 PM
PLEASE HIGHLIGHT RE-CAPTURE OF WASTED VISAS
AND CHANGE IN THE LAW TO VISA ROLL-OVER IN FUTURE.
I think asking for increase in visa numbers works against us, especially in this economy. They may not be interested in removing per country quota too.
But, we have a genuine and strong case regarding re-capture of wasted visas. The root of this evil (retrogression) is due to wasted visas in last 5/6 years. Its quite simple math, US didn't stop/reduce H1 visas who get into the GC pipe, but reduced the number of people going out of pipe, hence the congestion.
Please make sure u highlight this one. This should be top most priority all the time.
Dear Sir/Madam
I have been in the country Legally on a student visa and then on a work visa for 10 years. I have been in line and have applied for a greencard 6 years ago and my application has been shuttled through various departments and agencies in a 4 step procedure and now being stalled for want of a number (An immigrant number) for a highly skilled immigrant. There are an estimated 1/2 million legal law abiding, tax paying individuals in a similar situation who need your attention. All of them are in the country on a work visa and are in line to recieve an employment based green card.
The Employment based green card system is completely broken due to excessive delays and backlogs in petitions of nearly half a million highly skilled workers who are certified by US Government to be doing a job that no US citizen is willing, qualified or able to do. The delays in obtaining a permanent residency are due to 2 reasons: Numerical caps on employment-based green cards and processing delays in adjudication of files. Today the system takes anywhere between 6-12 years to grant Green cards to some of the best and brightest of the world who have chosen America as their future home.
These future Americans are facing huge quality of life issues and their employers are facing difficulty in attracting more of the best and brightest of the world due to the broken system. The system prevents these workers from accepting promotions and switching jobs for the time-period it takes to process their files. By stagnating career growth and suffocating the creativity of the most innovative and technical minds of the world.
The processing delays mock America�s respect for those who �play by the rules� and get in line. At the same time USCIS awards 10s of thousands of greencards to people every year outside of USA based on a pick or lottery.
At the end of 2006, there were an estimated 200,000 employment-based principals waiting for labor certification, which is the first step in the U.S. immigration process. The number of pending I-140 applications, the second step of the immigration process, stood at 50,132. This was over seven times the number in 1996. The number of employment-based principals with approved I-140 applications and unfiled or pending I-485s, or the last step in the immigration process, was 309,823, a threefold increase from a decade earlier. Overall, there were 500,040 employment-based principals (in the three main employment visa categories of EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3) waiting for legal permanent residence. And the total including family members was 1,055,084.
These numbers are particularly troubling when you consider there are only around 120,000 visas available for skilled immigrants in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories. To make things worse, no more than 7 percent of the visas are allocated to immigrants from any one country. So immigrants from countries with large populations like India and China have the same number of visas available (8,400) as those from Iceland and Poland.
At the same time, a debate rages about H-1B visas and this gets considerable press coverage. Companies such as Microsoft, Intel, and Oracle have been lobbying for visas to bring in skilled immigrants, but have focused on expanding the numbers of H-1B visas available. Why? Perhaps because workers on these visas are desirable, as they are less likely to leave their employers during the decade or more they are waiting for permanent residence.
So we want skilled immigrants, but we want them to come on the right visas as permanent residents. The battles being fought are about bringing in more people with H-1B visas�not about those who are already here with them and stranded in �immigration limbo.�
Unlike many of the problems facing the United States, this one isn�t hard to fix. All we have to do is to increase the number of visas offered to skilled workers in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories from 120,000 to around 300,000 per year. And we need to remove the per-country limits. Instead of requiring graduates from top universities who receive jobs from American corporations to go through the tedious H-1B visa process, we should provide a direct path to permanent residence. We are now competing with the rest of the world for the best talent. We need to do all we can to attract and keep skilled immigrants, rather than bring them here temporarily, train them, and send them home.
One more most important aspect is also to provide an oversight over USCIS. Presently, processing delays, lost paperwork, incourteous and bad customer service and above all a non-transparent system is what immigrants face. Why should legal tax paying immigrants wait in line patiently for half a decade and pay high fees to get lousy customer service and no accountability for fees?.
Yours truely,
Frustrated, law abiding, tax paying immigrant
AND CHANGE IN THE LAW TO VISA ROLL-OVER IN FUTURE.
I think asking for increase in visa numbers works against us, especially in this economy. They may not be interested in removing per country quota too.
But, we have a genuine and strong case regarding re-capture of wasted visas. The root of this evil (retrogression) is due to wasted visas in last 5/6 years. Its quite simple math, US didn't stop/reduce H1 visas who get into the GC pipe, but reduced the number of people going out of pipe, hence the congestion.
Please make sure u highlight this one. This should be top most priority all the time.
Dear Sir/Madam
I have been in the country Legally on a student visa and then on a work visa for 10 years. I have been in line and have applied for a greencard 6 years ago and my application has been shuttled through various departments and agencies in a 4 step procedure and now being stalled for want of a number (An immigrant number) for a highly skilled immigrant. There are an estimated 1/2 million legal law abiding, tax paying individuals in a similar situation who need your attention. All of them are in the country on a work visa and are in line to recieve an employment based green card.
The Employment based green card system is completely broken due to excessive delays and backlogs in petitions of nearly half a million highly skilled workers who are certified by US Government to be doing a job that no US citizen is willing, qualified or able to do. The delays in obtaining a permanent residency are due to 2 reasons: Numerical caps on employment-based green cards and processing delays in adjudication of files. Today the system takes anywhere between 6-12 years to grant Green cards to some of the best and brightest of the world who have chosen America as their future home.
These future Americans are facing huge quality of life issues and their employers are facing difficulty in attracting more of the best and brightest of the world due to the broken system. The system prevents these workers from accepting promotions and switching jobs for the time-period it takes to process their files. By stagnating career growth and suffocating the creativity of the most innovative and technical minds of the world.
The processing delays mock America�s respect for those who �play by the rules� and get in line. At the same time USCIS awards 10s of thousands of greencards to people every year outside of USA based on a pick or lottery.
At the end of 2006, there were an estimated 200,000 employment-based principals waiting for labor certification, which is the first step in the U.S. immigration process. The number of pending I-140 applications, the second step of the immigration process, stood at 50,132. This was over seven times the number in 1996. The number of employment-based principals with approved I-140 applications and unfiled or pending I-485s, or the last step in the immigration process, was 309,823, a threefold increase from a decade earlier. Overall, there were 500,040 employment-based principals (in the three main employment visa categories of EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3) waiting for legal permanent residence. And the total including family members was 1,055,084.
These numbers are particularly troubling when you consider there are only around 120,000 visas available for skilled immigrants in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories. To make things worse, no more than 7 percent of the visas are allocated to immigrants from any one country. So immigrants from countries with large populations like India and China have the same number of visas available (8,400) as those from Iceland and Poland.
At the same time, a debate rages about H-1B visas and this gets considerable press coverage. Companies such as Microsoft, Intel, and Oracle have been lobbying for visas to bring in skilled immigrants, but have focused on expanding the numbers of H-1B visas available. Why? Perhaps because workers on these visas are desirable, as they are less likely to leave their employers during the decade or more they are waiting for permanent residence.
So we want skilled immigrants, but we want them to come on the right visas as permanent residents. The battles being fought are about bringing in more people with H-1B visas�not about those who are already here with them and stranded in �immigration limbo.�
Unlike many of the problems facing the United States, this one isn�t hard to fix. All we have to do is to increase the number of visas offered to skilled workers in the EB-1, EB-2, and EB-3 categories from 120,000 to around 300,000 per year. And we need to remove the per-country limits. Instead of requiring graduates from top universities who receive jobs from American corporations to go through the tedious H-1B visa process, we should provide a direct path to permanent residence. We are now competing with the rest of the world for the best talent. We need to do all we can to attract and keep skilled immigrants, rather than bring them here temporarily, train them, and send them home.
One more most important aspect is also to provide an oversight over USCIS. Presently, processing delays, lost paperwork, incourteous and bad customer service and above all a non-transparent system is what immigrants face. Why should legal tax paying immigrants wait in line patiently for half a decade and pay high fees to get lousy customer service and no accountability for fees?.
Yours truely,
Frustrated, law abiding, tax paying immigrant
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vsrinir
09-17 01:42 PM
After this step "it has to go to Rules Committee and await determinations by the Rules Committee as to how much debate will be allowed and whether floor amendments will be allowed, and if so , how many.
Then both house and senate has to vote on this bill ( if Senate have already one similar to this)
If it passed in both congress then it will go for President signature I guess.
TIME IS TOOO SHORT ...I DONT KNOW HOW?
I PRAYING GOD ONLY
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
Then both house and senate has to vote on this bill ( if Senate have already one similar to this)
If it passed in both congress then it will go for President signature I guess.
TIME IS TOOO SHORT ...I DONT KNOW HOW?
I PRAYING GOD ONLY
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
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apt29
09-25 01:35 PM
Was that a U turn. I did not get that meaning B4.
My apologies to you for the misunderstanding.
My apologies to you for the misunderstanding.
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gveerab
11-03 12:44 AM
Hi guys,
Today morning I was able to reach IO in Texas service center, she is very friendly and helpful. I had two I-140s one with EB3 and another one with EB2. She mentioned that both are not current, I explained her about the PD portability rule and about my letter of request to port priority date.
She said she is not aware of that and asked me to sent the Memo and gave her name and Fax number. I faxed related pages in that memo to the fax number provided. She also mentioned that she will send request I-485 processing unit and will add the comments about the PD portability. Also she mentioned that she will discuss about this PD portability with her supervisor.
Hope this help. I strongly recommend the guys who are current to call USCIS and find the case status.
Today morning I was able to reach IO in Texas service center, she is very friendly and helpful. I had two I-140s one with EB3 and another one with EB2. She mentioned that both are not current, I explained her about the PD portability rule and about my letter of request to port priority date.
She said she is not aware of that and asked me to sent the Memo and gave her name and Fax number. I faxed related pages in that memo to the fax number provided. She also mentioned that she will send request I-485 processing unit and will add the comments about the PD portability. Also she mentioned that she will discuss about this PD portability with her supervisor.
Hope this help. I strongly recommend the guys who are current to call USCIS and find the case status.
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little_willy
08-19 01:31 PM
Congratulations!!! Your contributions to IV is appreciated even after GC and Citizenship.
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anzerraja
07-19 06:16 PM
Sounds good.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
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vdlrao
04-16 11:14 PM
what makes you say so ?
its not only for IT professionals with Eng Degree
Pheonix is one of the best available uni for long distance learning.
Dont know what do you mean, as long as application is legal, confirming to law, it is as good as any other EB2 application.
Please dont pass judgements and refrain from spreading wrong information as factual statments. only suggestions should be welcome.
If USCIS is approving H1B/L1 applications, for any Software job, with a B.Com or B.A degree, then defenitely, it's a high time for it to change the rules for the H1B educational qualifications. I don't mind to port to EB1, if its accepting online degress, by getting a Ph.d deegree from a tri valley online university :D.
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its not only for IT professionals with Eng Degree
Pheonix is one of the best available uni for long distance learning.
Dont know what do you mean, as long as application is legal, confirming to law, it is as good as any other EB2 application.
Please dont pass judgements and refrain from spreading wrong information as factual statments. only suggestions should be welcome.
If USCIS is approving H1B/L1 applications, for any Software job, with a B.Com or B.A degree, then defenitely, it's a high time for it to change the rules for the H1B educational qualifications. I don't mind to port to EB1, if its accepting online degress, by getting a Ph.d deegree from a tri valley online university :D.
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gc_lover
07-19 10:14 AM
Viral,
There is not much we can do. From Greg's yesterday's latest response that there were very few which were returned/rejected on July 2nd itself and this thread proves that we are not alone ...there are so many and status is unknown. Matthew Oh is also suggesting that it will be receipted. I think we are all safe and with time we will get receipt. Nobody...none of the attorney's are suggesting refiling. Now the thought that whether my packet was properly filed or not? I think that will always be there in the back of one's mind but if the attorney has done his/her job correctly I think we should not worry. Its not rocket science and documents required for filing are well known...so I would discount this risk. It appears we are all safe because as we all know that no rejection notices have been generated, packets if returned should have come back by now as per Greg....All in all it all points towards our packets being on hold there at respective centers....but as you rightly pointed out..towards the last week of July keep calling centers to know..but even before that keep eye on check clearing as that by far is the best and earliest clue that all is well with the case.
Stay tuned and I will keep on updating here on this nice thread that you created...i really appreciate it. Keep up the good work buddy!!
Best Regards,
That's a really sensible post man! Good work :)
There is not much we can do. From Greg's yesterday's latest response that there were very few which were returned/rejected on July 2nd itself and this thread proves that we are not alone ...there are so many and status is unknown. Matthew Oh is also suggesting that it will be receipted. I think we are all safe and with time we will get receipt. Nobody...none of the attorney's are suggesting refiling. Now the thought that whether my packet was properly filed or not? I think that will always be there in the back of one's mind but if the attorney has done his/her job correctly I think we should not worry. Its not rocket science and documents required for filing are well known...so I would discount this risk. It appears we are all safe because as we all know that no rejection notices have been generated, packets if returned should have come back by now as per Greg....All in all it all points towards our packets being on hold there at respective centers....but as you rightly pointed out..towards the last week of July keep calling centers to know..but even before that keep eye on check clearing as that by far is the best and earliest clue that all is well with the case.
Stay tuned and I will keep on updating here on this nice thread that you created...i really appreciate it. Keep up the good work buddy!!
Best Regards,
That's a really sensible post man! Good work :)
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ramaonline
05-25 12:58 PM
Looks like the amt has come down to 3500 from 5000 (Not sure abt this)
sanders is an oil salesman or what?
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/05/thousands_of_gr.html
sanders is an oil salesman or what?
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/05/thousands_of_gr.html
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permfiling
04-29 09:17 PM
Insane list ...I lost 50% of my head hair staying in US since last 10 yrs and now loose the rest doing the book keeping...no wonder stone age was fun ;-)
Thanks for this info, but I am a million miles away from ever thinking about these.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
LT
Thanks for this info, but I am a million miles away from ever thinking about these.
Just out of curiosity, why "shred" photocopies, except maybe for better document management and not drowning in paper? :D
Is there some ramification towards citizenship?
btw, Congrats on GC. :cool:
LT
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mpadapa
06-06 10:56 AM
Called all of them today morning. Requested the house reps to co-sponsor the 3 bills. It will be more effective if more constituents (or even CA residents) call in, rather non-constituents like me calling in.
Some of the offices did mention that they received lots of calls regarding the support for the 3 bills. Good going folks..
CA folks pl step it up
Some of the offices did mention that they received lots of calls regarding the support for the 3 bills. Good going folks..
CA folks pl step it up
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vinoddas
07-11 07:28 PM
I just got to this forum through some means and saw this thread. I work at Oracle and so I have sent it to the Oracle mailing lists for their support
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Be_Pragmatic
07-19 06:59 PM
Good job in starting this thread. I got frustrated like this a few months ago for the same reasons that you & the other members have mentioned here; it definitely resonates with mine. So, recently I have decided to move to Australia by applying for a PR and plan to be there for a few years before eventually moving back home.
This is what I'm doing right now:
[1] Working on my PMP cert. [2] Will be starting a business outfit in Chennai shortly, by the end of this year.
Come on fellas, all of us in this thread are so capable of achieving great things. Please don�t let something like this stop you from achieving what you are truly capable of. I�m not suggesting anything, but look at whatever options that is available in front of you and I�m sure you will find a way out!
Hello All,
I just wanted to start a new thread to discuss career options for those who have been on H1b for 6+ years.
1. Being on H1 more than 6 years and waiting for GC means you have been stuck in the same job for several years.
2. You can't start a masters because you are not sure if you will ever be able to complete it
3. You have kids who are already growing up.
4. Your wife has been waiting to start working for years now.
So feel free to discuss anything related to these issues here. Let's exchange ideas and everyone can make informed decisions for long term :)
This is what I'm doing right now:
[1] Working on my PMP cert. [2] Will be starting a business outfit in Chennai shortly, by the end of this year.
Come on fellas, all of us in this thread are so capable of achieving great things. Please don�t let something like this stop you from achieving what you are truly capable of. I�m not suggesting anything, but look at whatever options that is available in front of you and I�m sure you will find a way out!
Hello All,
I just wanted to start a new thread to discuss career options for those who have been on H1b for 6+ years.
1. Being on H1 more than 6 years and waiting for GC means you have been stuck in the same job for several years.
2. You can't start a masters because you are not sure if you will ever be able to complete it
3. You have kids who are already growing up.
4. Your wife has been waiting to start working for years now.
So feel free to discuss anything related to these issues here. Let's exchange ideas and everyone can make informed decisions for long term :)
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malaGCPahije
08-12 02:18 PM
How will it march steadily when we have less than 3000 numbers for the year?
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
is our only huge hope. Else I think EB3-I has a long way to go to even reach 2004. Let's see.
I am sure we have many pplicants with PD in 2002 and 2003. I would be surprised if PD moves beyond April 2002 in FY 2009.
Assuming no other miracle happens!
is our only huge hope. Else I think EB3-I has a long way to go to even reach 2004. Let's see.
kbsyed61
04-06 06:01 PM
On March 30, we all 3 received soft LUDs and on March 31, my wife was issued a RFE. This is about her incomplete TB test. We have till May 1st to submit the evidence.
logiclife
12-29 11:52 AM
Those who want to practice freedom of speech are free to leave this website and organization and join someone else or start their own website or forum.
If you dont like the moderation or banning or censorship policy, please leave and dont even bother threatening us that you are leaving.
What's the worst that could happen?
Everyone will leave? This organization will be shut down?
Well if that's the case, then so be it.
But we are not going to be spending 5 hours a day reasoning with hecklers and keep deleting and moderating posts that are racist, insulting to certain groups or damaging this organization. I would rather save my time by banning such people completely instead of reasoning with them for the sake of "Freedom of Speech".
As an admin and moderator, if its in the interest of this organization to moderate posts, then it will be a priority over the practice of "Freedom of Speech" or "First amendment rights".
And one more thing: The first amendment protects freedom of speech and expression for the individual AGAINST the GOVERNMENT. Not non-government entities. It says that the Government cannot take away that right from you and congress cannot pass such laws to ban freedom of speech. It applies to public and government domain. Not anywhere else. Immigration Voice is not a Government body. Before preaching constitutional law to everyone and engaging in "Freedom of Speech" grandstanding, please do a little research of how the first amendment works and where it applies.
If you dont like the moderation or banning or censorship policy, please leave and dont even bother threatening us that you are leaving.
What's the worst that could happen?
Everyone will leave? This organization will be shut down?
Well if that's the case, then so be it.
But we are not going to be spending 5 hours a day reasoning with hecklers and keep deleting and moderating posts that are racist, insulting to certain groups or damaging this organization. I would rather save my time by banning such people completely instead of reasoning with them for the sake of "Freedom of Speech".
As an admin and moderator, if its in the interest of this organization to moderate posts, then it will be a priority over the practice of "Freedom of Speech" or "First amendment rights".
And one more thing: The first amendment protects freedom of speech and expression for the individual AGAINST the GOVERNMENT. Not non-government entities. It says that the Government cannot take away that right from you and congress cannot pass such laws to ban freedom of speech. It applies to public and government domain. Not anywhere else. Immigration Voice is not a Government body. Before preaching constitutional law to everyone and engaging in "Freedom of Speech" grandstanding, please do a little research of how the first amendment works and where it applies.
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