kaisersose
11-02 03:19 PM
nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.
And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.
I did not say outsourcing is the only alternative. I said they will have their own people take these jobs or if not, they will ship out these jobs. Do we really believe there aren't enough Americans to handle IT work in America?
H-1b is not cheap labor. American companies prefer to hire H-1bs with US master's degrees or with substantial amounts of US experience. When they do hire foreigners, they do not discriminate against them by paying them lesser.
H-1bs are abused by desi vendors and the like who take advantage of the indenturing nature of the visa and also on the naivety of "fresh off the boat" people who newly arrive into the US and are unfamilar with US economy. They are starry eyed, still busy converting each dollar into their local currency and feeling happy they are earning relatively more and dreaming about paying off their EMIs back home, sooner. It takes quite a few months for them to settle down and understand US dynamics.
Lastly, we should not confuse the need for H-1bs as equal to the need for GC holders. Take the example of middle eastern countries. They use foreign labor, but they never grant them permanent status. That way, they do not get stuck with them in the event of a downturn. American could have chosen to follow a similar model. Use H-1b temps when necessary and send them out when they are expendable. They have no reaons to hand out GCs, like I said earlier. The benefit is all ours.
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ianlock
02-10 10:55 AM
I am in eb3 row, have a job waiting for me in the usa, but i am in england,
Have a PD of june 06, am terrified that my job offer will be withdrawn if i dont make some progress soon. Have had job offer for 1 year this week.
My soliciter has written to nvc to try and shed some light. but im not expecting much joy.
But from the posts, i have read in this thread, do i detect a glimmer of hope for my situation.?
Could EB3 row become current soon.??
It is just so unjust that i have to wait the length of time that i have, its not so bad if you are already out there, and just changing your status, but for some one in my position trying to perminently relocate, job waiting for them, no family, just me, clean as a whisle and not able to do anything because you are stuck in the same que as everyone else is just a nightmare. I have had my life on hold for a little under 2 years for this. And im only 24.
Im starting to wonder just how much longer i can wait. Life has to go on you know. Im loosing some of the best years of my life to stand in a fucking que, for something that may never happen. It is almost enough to make you think about becoming and illegal.
Ian
London, England.
Have a PD of june 06, am terrified that my job offer will be withdrawn if i dont make some progress soon. Have had job offer for 1 year this week.
My soliciter has written to nvc to try and shed some light. but im not expecting much joy.
But from the posts, i have read in this thread, do i detect a glimmer of hope for my situation.?
Could EB3 row become current soon.??
It is just so unjust that i have to wait the length of time that i have, its not so bad if you are already out there, and just changing your status, but for some one in my position trying to perminently relocate, job waiting for them, no family, just me, clean as a whisle and not able to do anything because you are stuck in the same que as everyone else is just a nightmare. I have had my life on hold for a little under 2 years for this. And im only 24.
Im starting to wonder just how much longer i can wait. Life has to go on you know. Im loosing some of the best years of my life to stand in a fucking que, for something that may never happen. It is almost enough to make you think about becoming and illegal.
Ian
London, England.
tb2904
08-11 02:11 PM
Done.
2011 Whales are goddamn HUGE.
gcgreen
08-13 07:39 PM
your title is misleading. where is the "plight" that you refer to?
Also, EB2 applies to jobs that require a Masters degree as well, not just PhD.
An MS can be completed in as little as 9 months (YES, 9 months, if you apply for MS in a school that follows quarter system and complete coursework but no thesis) for majors like Electrical and Computer Engineering. So what is the plight for folks who completed MS in say 9 months to 2 yrs, and how is it different from the plight of EB3 folks?
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
Also, EB2 applies to jobs that require a Masters degree as well, not just PhD.
An MS can be completed in as little as 9 months (YES, 9 months, if you apply for MS in a school that follows quarter system and complete coursework but no thesis) for majors like Electrical and Computer Engineering. So what is the plight for folks who completed MS in say 9 months to 2 yrs, and how is it different from the plight of EB3 folks?
Yes, that is right, I said �plight of EB2-India�.
I am a passive observer of these forums. But some of the ridiculous notions floating around here have motivated me to vent. First and foremost, the law as written is highly favorable to people in EB3 categories, even from India. Here is how...
Take my example (and there are thousands like myself)....came to the US 8 years ago, spent 5 years working day and night to earn a PhD on a low (barely sustainable) stipend, got FIRST job saw decent money for the first time 6 years after I came.
Now, compare this to a person working an EB3-job for the last 8 years. Not only does this person do a real job that hopefully provides a respectable income but this person also has the option of moving to EB2 after 5 years of experience. So, at the end of the day in 2008; this person comes out ahead of me in terms of money, in terms of priority date (if ported) and most likely in terms of GC.
There are complaints all over the forum which have the stink of pretentiousness such as �oh..i am a poor EB3 waiting for n number of years� etc etc. What you guys seem to forget is that YOU are NOT an EB3, it is your JOB that is EB3. You have all the opportunities that were/are available to a person who sweated it out in the university system here to gain more qualifications and get an EB2 job. You CHOSE not to. The general discussion seems to center around cribbing about the US immigration system (Immigration by the way is a privilege defined by laws, not a birthright) and then blaming the EB2 crowd when they finally see the system implement the law as intended in the first place (horizontal spillover rules).
All these posts that refer to �my career is over because my gc is delayed� are nothing but a pathetic excuse. Law of supply and demand....if you have a skillset that is valuable, you will be fine with or without GC anywhere in the world. It takes a bunch of documents to remain here legally, all you need is a passport to go back if the system here seems so bad.
For all the attacks that are bound to happen, here is the fodder.....this is probably my first and last post, I haven�t contributed a dime to IV, will work here as long as I like it and if not, India is a great country and provides enough opportunities for any skillset !!
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gcseeker2002
11-04 12:08 PM
I voted long back, but dont understand the purpose of this poll, is it just to feel satisfied that there are only fewer than 600 EB3 remaining or is there a bigger picture to this ?
meandmygc
07-16 03:50 AM
Signed
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kubmilegaGC
09-17 01:23 PM
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
anyone would be when they get this email ..I meant 2007 and 2009 wherever there is mistake of 2207 and 2209. Thanks!
I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.
THANK YOU GOD - THANKS FOR LISTENING.
I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!
BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.
Here is my journey - encapsulated:
PD- June 04
I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
RD 8/4/2207
SR #1: 9/4/2209
SR #2" 9/11/2209
Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
Infopass: 9/15/2009
CPO emails: 9/17/2009
Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!
anyone would be when they get this email ..I meant 2007 and 2009 wherever there is mistake of 2207 and 2209. Thanks!
2010 the Whale shark,
jindhal
08-25 04:06 PM
is crappy...
they provide "technically free" money transfers to india.
They do not charge you anything for transferring but their profit is from offering a much lower rate for transfers than the official rate. I have had different time lag between initiate and transfer on different days. Not sure if their transfer is delayed or preponed based on rate but they do take a hell lot long to transfer. I earlier used to suggest M2I from icici nowadays its remit 2 india. Cust service is crappy regardless of where you go, cos in the end these companies are desi..and the cust service is also desi. They treat you like crap (just like the rest of the population back home) and I dont expect anything different anytime soon.
they provide "technically free" money transfers to india.
They do not charge you anything for transferring but their profit is from offering a much lower rate for transfers than the official rate. I have had different time lag between initiate and transfer on different days. Not sure if their transfer is delayed or preponed based on rate but they do take a hell lot long to transfer. I earlier used to suggest M2I from icici nowadays its remit 2 india. Cust service is crappy regardless of where you go, cos in the end these companies are desi..and the cust service is also desi. They treat you like crap (just like the rest of the population back home) and I dont expect anything different anytime soon.
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preddy2k
07-15 10:05 PM
Done
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chanduv23
12-17 10:20 AM
Chandu,
I am not sure if you are moderator, if so, we request you have it as an IV action item in home page. Having been with this excellant forum for more than a year now most of us DO know if IV core endorse it or not ..If you notice , you will see my last posts stil in the same page.. meaning reponse isnt that great. Please drive it more..
Thanks in advance..
Hi Sri - I am not moderator - but a member like you. This thread has been hardwired so it remains on top of all posts.
IV is all of us and no need to wait from moderator for approval. If you think that a moderator or an administrator stamp is necessary, pappu can post a message on this if it helps.
IV is us all and members MUST drive campaigns. Thats how IV has always been and survived because of members taking causes
I am not sure if you are moderator, if so, we request you have it as an IV action item in home page. Having been with this excellant forum for more than a year now most of us DO know if IV core endorse it or not ..If you notice , you will see my last posts stil in the same page.. meaning reponse isnt that great. Please drive it more..
Thanks in advance..
Hi Sri - I am not moderator - but a member like you. This thread has been hardwired so it remains on top of all posts.
IV is all of us and no need to wait from moderator for approval. If you think that a moderator or an administrator stamp is necessary, pappu can post a message on this if it helps.
IV is us all and members MUST drive campaigns. Thats how IV has always been and survived because of members taking causes
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kate123
03-10 05:08 PM
Hopefully VDL Rao's prediction will come true :)
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Archana
04-26 10:02 PM
Our contributions on the way. Keep Spirits High and all of ours hard work will succeed...
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mjdup
02-14 09:19 AM
Logiclife,
Great reply, very professional to an uncivilized human who took the liberty to use F word and you still maintained your calm. And not only that, you never revealed who the member was so that he/she doesn't get blaster by other members.
This is just one of the many obstacles core team has to face on the road to victory. Keep up the good work core !
We're with you,
Great reply, very professional to an uncivilized human who took the liberty to use F word and you still maintained your calm. And not only that, you never revealed who the member was so that he/she doesn't get blaster by other members.
This is just one of the many obstacles core team has to face on the road to victory. Keep up the good work core !
We're with you,
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dpp
11-07 02:12 PM
I don't think H1B is law is that complex, it just says to get some skilled foreigner to work if you have a position (contracter/fultime/parttime or whatever it is) to pay for that. Thats it. So any US employer can apply for H1B by declaring his will pay the wage mentioned in H1B LCA.
H1B law too broad. It didn't filter any. Thats the reason some are abusing it.
To the best of my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) H-1B can not be applied for contract worker if the visa has to be applied on demand and bench is not allowed.
How will contract wokers come here in the future?
H1B law too broad. It didn't filter any. Thats the reason some are abusing it.
To the best of my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) H-1B can not be applied for contract worker if the visa has to be applied on demand and bench is not allowed.
How will contract wokers come here in the future?
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gbof
06-14 10:37 AM
I guess I may fall victim of FBI background check. Even though, my priority date is not current yet but, it should be next couple of months based on recent EB-2 movement. We had our AOS interview last Nov and IO told us that she is going to initiate another Background check as original BC is more than two years old. In the end of April, I made an Infopass appointment out of curiosity because Background check use to be a major source of delay for many people. Service Rep on window told me that my Background check has not come back yet.. It was almost 5 months since it was ordered.. She did not elaborate on why was it pending.. She asked me couple of weird question which did not make any sense to me. I have schedule another appointment in next couple of days to find out where do I stand. I would like to keep my expectations in check as pending BC can delay it even when priority dates are current.
Can anyone on forum please provide some info on what can be done if Background check is pending over 180 days.. I can make a request to my Congressmen and ask for their help... Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks
I really donot believe they will do Background checks again before approvals for everybody. Can you please elaborate what was the reason for the interview and what were the weird questions -- You can give us a little flavor. -Thanks
Can anyone on forum please provide some info on what can be done if Background check is pending over 180 days.. I can make a request to my Congressmen and ask for their help... Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks
I really donot believe they will do Background checks again before approvals for everybody. Can you please elaborate what was the reason for the interview and what were the weird questions -- You can give us a little flavor. -Thanks
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optimist578
01-30 09:04 AM
I see DOL making so many improvements, PERM process in full gear, BECs finishing up most of their backlogs, and then, no labor substitution rule. Hope USCIS takes some inspiration from them.
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seekerofpeace
09-14 11:48 PM
Why was there not a choice for luck or fate.........
SDRBLR,
How did you send an email to TSC streamline? My case is at TSC and we are half done...primary approved and dependent pending...told biometrics issue by lawyer thru AILA but as far as these forums go biometrics don't hold an approval otherwise I won't have been approved. i guess we carry the curse of transfered cases...mine was TSC-CSC-TSC
Thanks,
SoP
SDRBLR,
How did you send an email to TSC streamline? My case is at TSC and we are half done...primary approved and dependent pending...told biometrics issue by lawyer thru AILA but as far as these forums go biometrics don't hold an approval otherwise I won't have been approved. i guess we carry the curse of transfered cases...mine was TSC-CSC-TSC
Thanks,
SoP
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Oli-G
06-13 12:42 AM
Nice work here.... might try and whip one up the next few days
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SGP
04-02 05:22 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$GOOD EVENING GC$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
Deadline = April 30th, 2011
Goal = 5000 votes on survey (see I-485 filing w/o current PD thread) and momentum to continue with this campaign.The survey is a platform to gather and push for launching action items. Based on response by 04/30/2011 - IV will decide whether to even proceed with initiative or not.
Actions - 1) Vote on survey.
2)Email ivcoordinator@gmail.com with PD, ph#,email & subject "I485 filing impacted�,
3)Print/Circulate Fliers and spread FB, wiki link (see "support thread")
Dear IV Members,
If you believe that your success depends on your immigration process - whether it's the ability to file I-485 earlier or to get green-card and citizenship sooner or whether it's the ability of your spouse to work - then you have to believe that your success somehow depends on the success of Immigration voice and these 170 volunteers in DC next week.
As you may know, we are just one more week away from hosting Advocacy day in Washington DC where about 170 members of Immigration Voice will conduct nearly 250 meetings with offices of Senators and Congressmen. Such events cost money. If we have enough contributions, we can spend as per our budget of nearly $ 50,000. If not, we will have to cut back on the event spending and reduce the magnitude and size of the event.
If you are not coming to DC next week, please do your part and contribute funds to Immigration Voice. It not only finances the event properly, it instills pride and confidence in the members who will be there in DC that there are thousands of willing supporters behind them who could not be there physically but are 100% with them in their determination and resolve.
For background click here -> Announcement about April 2011 Advocacy Days (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1901186-action-item-advocacy-days-in-washington-dc-in-april-2011-a.html#post2301599)
Contribute to Advocacy Event on the Capitol Hill (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=44#onetimepaypal) (All one-time contributions will go towards organizing the Advocacy Days event)
gcformeornot
07-02 07:53 AM
leave my indian employer soon. they are saying they have 90 days notice period.... which was set from india. I work in ohio which has "employment at will" law... I am not going to serve the full notice period..... but if they deduct any money..... I am going fight like hell.... planning to complain to DOL and state govt office......I will keep updated on what happens....
m306m
06-11 01:23 PM
Thanks guys for the moral support and quick responses.
More details are as follows:
1. This accident occurred in 18 months back in CA
2. We were going on high way and suddenly the car infront of me came to a sudden halt and as I didn't had any reaction time, even though I applied brakes I went and rammed into the van in front of me, which in turn hit the car infront (like a ripple effect) and totally 8 cars were involved in that collision.
3. So at first we thought it is entirely my fault as I was coming at 50s and I rear ended the care which inturn created this ripple effect.
4. But the actual scenario is, the van infront of me came to halt, as it rear ended the car infront of it and due to which the other car hit the one infront.
So already one accident happened and I caused one more and as mine was a 11 seater and coming at 50s the impact was high and involved in 8 cars.
All this happened within in mins or secs, I would say
--> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Myself car1 car2 car3 car4 car5 car6 car7
In the above pictorial representation,
a) car 1 hit car2 which in turn hit car3 (1st impact)
b) Myself hit car1 again which ripple effected all the way upto car7 (2nd one)
I was the only person injured and and had to be hospitalized with bi-lateral hip fractures and right knee fractures and was out of work for 4 months.Luickly my insurance covered most of the amount thats been charged(around 300K)
Finally I recovered to a great extent and out of blue gets a lawsuit from the owner of car3 against myself, Car1 and car2.
BTW, insurance determined that my fault is 80% as I caused the greater collision and they paid the property damages for all the cars involved.
As per the lawsuit, seems car3 drivers spouse had herniated disc due to this accident and are expecting $200,000 for future treatment
So they are claiming the following:
3 milliion for : other damages(emotional etc.....)
200,0000 for: future treatment
50,000 for: lost wages
Thats is what the story of my life :(
Hope this gives u more details to provide me with more suggestions.
Firstly, I am not a lawyer and I would recommend that you get a lawyer to help out.
As mentioned before this is a civil lawsuit and not a crimial lawsuit. Impact on GC should not be a factor but consult an immigration lawyer.
Now depending on the state law you should not be liable for Cars2 through Cars7. It could easily be argued that they did not leave a safe distance between them and hence the ripple effect. What the insurance determines is the fault is not necessarily how the law would interpret it. So if you insurance of any of the car insurance assign percentages of fault, it is pretty much based on their calculations. Did you recieve a traffic citation? If so did it indicate that you were at fault for all the subsequent accidents? Did you contest the citation? If so what was the outcome. If you contested the citation and got the charges dropped you have a stronger case against each of the other plaintiffs.
Try to settle out of court and get the lawyers to drop the case. The way you do that is to claim that you don't have any money. Remember the lawyers for each of the plaintiffs have done an asset check on you and they know how much you have. Although the judge could request that each of the transactions to reverse. Do the following:
Read this post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=249649#post249649
1. Take out second mortage on the house (if you own it) and transfer cash to a relative's name in India
2. Sell cars and lease new cars
3. Cash savings etc should be transferred to relative's names in India.
Show the lawyers you don't have any money and they will not be able to recover their fees from this lawsuit. Do not capitualte to threats. Instead offer to settle out of court. Let them come up with the offer and then bargain like hell.
I hope this helps. If you need to talk more send me a private message.
More details are as follows:
1. This accident occurred in 18 months back in CA
2. We were going on high way and suddenly the car infront of me came to a sudden halt and as I didn't had any reaction time, even though I applied brakes I went and rammed into the van in front of me, which in turn hit the car infront (like a ripple effect) and totally 8 cars were involved in that collision.
3. So at first we thought it is entirely my fault as I was coming at 50s and I rear ended the care which inturn created this ripple effect.
4. But the actual scenario is, the van infront of me came to halt, as it rear ended the car infront of it and due to which the other car hit the one infront.
So already one accident happened and I caused one more and as mine was a 11 seater and coming at 50s the impact was high and involved in 8 cars.
All this happened within in mins or secs, I would say
--> --> --> --> --> --> --> -->
Myself car1 car2 car3 car4 car5 car6 car7
In the above pictorial representation,
a) car 1 hit car2 which in turn hit car3 (1st impact)
b) Myself hit car1 again which ripple effected all the way upto car7 (2nd one)
I was the only person injured and and had to be hospitalized with bi-lateral hip fractures and right knee fractures and was out of work for 4 months.Luickly my insurance covered most of the amount thats been charged(around 300K)
Finally I recovered to a great extent and out of blue gets a lawsuit from the owner of car3 against myself, Car1 and car2.
BTW, insurance determined that my fault is 80% as I caused the greater collision and they paid the property damages for all the cars involved.
As per the lawsuit, seems car3 drivers spouse had herniated disc due to this accident and are expecting $200,000 for future treatment
So they are claiming the following:
3 milliion for : other damages(emotional etc.....)
200,0000 for: future treatment
50,000 for: lost wages
Thats is what the story of my life :(
Hope this gives u more details to provide me with more suggestions.
Firstly, I am not a lawyer and I would recommend that you get a lawyer to help out.
As mentioned before this is a civil lawsuit and not a crimial lawsuit. Impact on GC should not be a factor but consult an immigration lawyer.
Now depending on the state law you should not be liable for Cars2 through Cars7. It could easily be argued that they did not leave a safe distance between them and hence the ripple effect. What the insurance determines is the fault is not necessarily how the law would interpret it. So if you insurance of any of the car insurance assign percentages of fault, it is pretty much based on their calculations. Did you recieve a traffic citation? If so did it indicate that you were at fault for all the subsequent accidents? Did you contest the citation? If so what was the outcome. If you contested the citation and got the charges dropped you have a stronger case against each of the other plaintiffs.
Try to settle out of court and get the lawyers to drop the case. The way you do that is to claim that you don't have any money. Remember the lawyers for each of the plaintiffs have done an asset check on you and they know how much you have. Although the judge could request that each of the transactions to reverse. Do the following:
Read this post: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=249649#post249649
1. Take out second mortage on the house (if you own it) and transfer cash to a relative's name in India
2. Sell cars and lease new cars
3. Cash savings etc should be transferred to relative's names in India.
Show the lawyers you don't have any money and they will not be able to recover their fees from this lawsuit. Do not capitualte to threats. Instead offer to settle out of court. Let them come up with the offer and then bargain like hell.
I hope this helps. If you need to talk more send me a private message.
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