ivgclive
10-17 05:51 AM
Hi All,
My son was born last month and applied for US passport. Once I get the passport I am planning to apply for PIO card in Texas. Can you please let me know if I need to send my son's original passport and the processing time. Can you please also let me know if anyone recently applied?
Thanks
Q: What are the requirements for applying a PIO card by a person who was not born in India and never had an Indian passport?
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(b) A notarised copy each of his/her birth certificate , his/her parent's latest Indian passports (either expired or not yet expired ) and his/her current US/Foreign passport and a copy of the parent's valid passport.
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My son was born last month and applied for US passport. Once I get the passport I am planning to apply for PIO card in Texas. Can you please let me know if I need to send my son's original passport and the processing time. Can you please also let me know if anyone recently applied?
Thanks
Q: What are the requirements for applying a PIO card by a person who was not born in India and never had an Indian passport?
.............
(b) A notarised copy each of his/her birth certificate , his/her parent's latest Indian passports (either expired or not yet expired ) and his/her current US/Foreign passport and a copy of the parent's valid passport.
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malibuguy007
10-01 08:28 PM
Please contribute so that we can work/lobby for changes
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21817
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=21817
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kumarc123
06-12 01:15 PM
Pappu,
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big, above all Practical
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big, above all Practical
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vishwak
08-11 08:35 AM
Very Disappointment for me.....as i missed it with couple of days.
Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)
I'm not sure if they are going to move dates in Oct or not...
Visa Bulletin for September 2010 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5113.html)
I'm not sure if they are going to move dates in Oct or not...
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pd052009
03-10 11:48 AM
I would again suggest to go for paid Forum for everyone. Treat desi's like desi's.
Free means one gets all kinds of public answers hindering IV's efforts.
Dont mean to start the same conversation again, but Pappu - do give it a thought.
Thanks.
I think the current model( Free access to all, except donor forum) is fine. If the whole IV site is paid one, many people like me would not give a thought to spend a min in this site. I came here as a guest, started reading the forum posts. Later realized some threads like 485-Filing and EB2-EB3 predictions require membership. Once I find the membership is free, I registered as a member. After couple of months, I realized what IV could do with my contributions and then I became a donor. So we need free access to bring new members to the forum and to show how they can help IV to help themselves.
Free means one gets all kinds of public answers hindering IV's efforts.
Dont mean to start the same conversation again, but Pappu - do give it a thought.
Thanks.
I think the current model( Free access to all, except donor forum) is fine. If the whole IV site is paid one, many people like me would not give a thought to spend a min in this site. I came here as a guest, started reading the forum posts. Later realized some threads like 485-Filing and EB2-EB3 predictions require membership. Once I find the membership is free, I registered as a member. After couple of months, I realized what IV could do with my contributions and then I became a donor. So we need free access to bring new members to the forum and to show how they can help IV to help themselves.
h1techSlave
06-12 02:34 PM
As per the state dept folks, pretty much all categories are using all their allocated numbers. So where is the spill over going to come from?
country quota will not impact I and C once the dates are current for ROW due to the spillover. If the number of applications pending is, say 100K and 95 K out of that are I and C. And assume 10K applications from ROW are add to the queue, what I am saying is all 110K will be cleared by end of the fiscal year.
country quota will not impact I and C once the dates are current for ROW due to the spillover. If the number of applications pending is, say 100K and 95 K out of that are I and C. And assume 10K applications from ROW are add to the queue, what I am saying is all 110K will be cleared by end of the fiscal year.
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WaldenPond
11-08 11:28 AM
hey friends,
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
Hello cagedcactus,
Thank you for offering to actively participate and connect with key lawmakers in MI. As janilsal suggested, it would be a very good idea to start MI �State Chapter�. This would help your friends and other IV members in the State of Michigan to organize meetings with the key lawmakers. Here is the link to State chapters:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=17
Also, please encourage your friends to register (in case they have not yet registered), and request them to invite their friends to IV. Here is a tool to send an invite to people who may not already know about IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
This will help increase IV members in different states and would increase the constituents to educate and convince the lawmakers.
Thanks,
WaldenPond
I saw that Logiclife mentioned that the head will be from michigan. I am from michigan and a lot of my buddies also visit this site regularly. Let us know if we can make a difference. Please let us know what can we do to help our cause here. I am ready to drive, meet, talk to any one I can to push things here. I dont know how much of an impact that would be, but even a little can help.
thanks
Please pm me with any suggestions or ideas.
Hello cagedcactus,
Thank you for offering to actively participate and connect with key lawmakers in MI. As janilsal suggested, it would be a very good idea to start MI �State Chapter�. This would help your friends and other IV members in the State of Michigan to organize meetings with the key lawmakers. Here is the link to State chapters:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=17
Also, please encourage your friends to register (in case they have not yet registered), and request them to invite their friends to IV. Here is a tool to send an invite to people who may not already know about IV.
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
This will help increase IV members in different states and would increase the constituents to educate and convince the lawmakers.
Thanks,
WaldenPond
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panky72
06-25 05:00 PM
1)Now a days AP renewal is taking 6 months
Mine was approved in less than 2 months (NSC)
Mine was approved in less than 2 months (NSC)
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immi_twinges
07-20 03:45 PM
Guys
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Do you mean just wait and hope for better....just wondering...
I dont understand Hillary
She recently announced in her campaign that she will increase the H1B visas
She also made a statement that she will try for more benefits for permanent residents.
She does not want to support only the people who are in the process of immigration???
Whats up with that.
May be she is afraid of Lou Dobbs...Recently he has been criticizing her for her Indian ties
or may be she is pro Rich Indian Americans ... this might sound ridiculous but her voting ney is crazy
They always comment about us stealing the middle class jobs...tell me one case where they don't prefer US citizen over immigrant.
I have been interviewing for couple of companies ...the first question they ask is ...Are you US citizen 2nd question r u Permanent resident ..no..
Then we are sorry.
Companies do not prefer US citizens over Immigrants...I don't know where this misconception comes in to play...
There was a guy in our office who used to complain about Chineese and Indians stealing jobs...Believe he is a big slacker ..he recently got fired...people like him form these programmers guilds.
We do not work for less and we are not paid less...may be they deduct our Gc expenses but not much
Why is there a misconception about us?
Lets get this thought out of these bone heads
We are not middle class job stealers...We are the building blocks of a strong middle class
Don't worry about this bill being rejected. I am pretty sure one way or the other they need to increase the EB visa number soon, else definetely USCIS will be in big trouble with thousands of applications sitting there for them, now having said that USCIS will find a way to get some bill which will have EB visa count increased passed in congress, so untill then cheer up and complete your filing.:) :) :)
Do you mean just wait and hope for better....just wondering...
I dont understand Hillary
She recently announced in her campaign that she will increase the H1B visas
She also made a statement that she will try for more benefits for permanent residents.
She does not want to support only the people who are in the process of immigration???
Whats up with that.
May be she is afraid of Lou Dobbs...Recently he has been criticizing her for her Indian ties
or may be she is pro Rich Indian Americans ... this might sound ridiculous but her voting ney is crazy
They always comment about us stealing the middle class jobs...tell me one case where they don't prefer US citizen over immigrant.
I have been interviewing for couple of companies ...the first question they ask is ...Are you US citizen 2nd question r u Permanent resident ..no..
Then we are sorry.
Companies do not prefer US citizens over Immigrants...I don't know where this misconception comes in to play...
There was a guy in our office who used to complain about Chineese and Indians stealing jobs...Believe he is a big slacker ..he recently got fired...people like him form these programmers guilds.
We do not work for less and we are not paid less...may be they deduct our Gc expenses but not much
Why is there a misconception about us?
Lets get this thought out of these bone heads
We are not middle class job stealers...We are the building blocks of a strong middle class
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Macaca
06-15 08:00 PM
From numerous visits to USCIS facilities, the Ombudsman has observed that adjudicators prefer to work on the cases that are easiest to complete. Adjudicators pick the �low hanging fruit� first because supervisors base performance evaluations on the number of cases completed. Consequently, adjudicators put aside the most difficult and time-intensive cases. These cases remain pending, perhaps for years, while backlog reduction appears generally to be succeeding.
The Ombudsman fully supports USCIS efforts to quickly and efficiently complete the cases. However, the current drive to complete large numbers of cases presents problems. For example, USCIS provides field offices resources based on what is needed to complete a typical case. It is the Ombudsman�s understanding that if field offices have a workload of 1,000 cases and USCIS determines each case usually takes one hour to complete, USCIS will provide financial support for 1,000 hours. Cases that take longer than an hour to complete are not provided additional resources in the office�s budget. Offices with more than the average numbers of difficult cases or offices that try to work the difficult cases thoroughly will not be adequately funded because the number of completions will be low. Meanwhile, offices that push to complete the easy cases will see their budgets grow.
One field office visited by the Ombudsman has a large number of long-pending cases which require substantial adjudicator hours. However, officers at that office indicate that they cannot address the older, difficult cases without negatively affecting their productivity report to USCIS headquarters.
Ombudsman's Recommendation
The Ombudsman has observed that newer cases are processed more quickly while cases more than six months old are increasingly backlogged. The Ombudsman supports the USCIS drive to maximize case completions, but attention needs to be directed at clearing older cases. The Ombudsman recommends that USCIS provide a clearer picture of the current backlog by providing information on the number of pending cases by form type with receipts that are:
< 90 days;
< 180 days;
< 1 year;
< 2 years;
< 3 years;
< 4 years; and
>= 4 years.
The Ombudsman fully supports USCIS efforts to quickly and efficiently complete the cases. However, the current drive to complete large numbers of cases presents problems. For example, USCIS provides field offices resources based on what is needed to complete a typical case. It is the Ombudsman�s understanding that if field offices have a workload of 1,000 cases and USCIS determines each case usually takes one hour to complete, USCIS will provide financial support for 1,000 hours. Cases that take longer than an hour to complete are not provided additional resources in the office�s budget. Offices with more than the average numbers of difficult cases or offices that try to work the difficult cases thoroughly will not be adequately funded because the number of completions will be low. Meanwhile, offices that push to complete the easy cases will see their budgets grow.
One field office visited by the Ombudsman has a large number of long-pending cases which require substantial adjudicator hours. However, officers at that office indicate that they cannot address the older, difficult cases without negatively affecting their productivity report to USCIS headquarters.
Ombudsman's Recommendation
The Ombudsman has observed that newer cases are processed more quickly while cases more than six months old are increasingly backlogged. The Ombudsman supports the USCIS drive to maximize case completions, but attention needs to be directed at clearing older cases. The Ombudsman recommends that USCIS provide a clearer picture of the current backlog by providing information on the number of pending cases by form type with receipts that are:
< 90 days;
< 180 days;
< 1 year;
< 2 years;
< 3 years;
< 4 years; and
>= 4 years.
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pmpforgc
02-19 02:33 PM
Hi
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
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chanduv23
07-08 02:57 PM
One of my co-worker was in same boat. His desi employer revoked his I-140 when he took fulltime employement in 2005. He got his GC finally.
Thanks for the positive response
Thanks for the positive response
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Almond
01-01 06:04 PM
I always loved this board for what it does - especially the Gurus who always spend their precious time giving input to member's queries. Well... this is not query. I just want to vent my frustration, helplessness to fellow friends in this board. In spite of graduating from a reputed univ with a Masters and very good GPA and also having 7 years of professional experience, I am bound to be a slave to my current Employer without any promotions, career growth or anything remote to that for next (God knows how many Decades) several years. ppl who are junior to me in every aspect are growing left and right and are also getting brighter opportunities. I dont care if you guys think I am jealous of them.... But does God really exist ? sorry for wasting your time with this depressing note. I guess there is a limit to how unlucky I can be !! call me a cry baby but I am one real unlucky individual !
I know exactly how you feel because I felt that way every single day for over 8 years (look at my priority date) and even years before I sent in my i485 application. It is just the worst feeling of hopelessness and constant worry because you don't know what's going to happen and when is it going to happen, and you can't even do anything with your life because you don't know the outcome of the whole thing. I know exactly how you feel. I finally got my GC this year but I think what I went through I will never forget. I hate it when people try to make others feel better with story examples of unfortunate people from poor countries or alcoholic parents or whatever stuff of that kind, because no one who is going through something so emotionally charged as feeling like a caged bird with no future is going to take those examples and all of a sudden go AHA and feel happy, however, as someone who was where you are and who waited for over a decade to get to the final point, I can tell you what I now know I should have done while I was waiting. I should have learned a language, I should have read more, I should have acquired more hobbies, I should have learned some extra computer skills. I finally got my card and I have to start from zero because I spent so much time just concentrating on my job and my misery and on other superficial things, and now, in order to finally move on I am home on the 1st of the year surrounded be a million "how to" books in order to be able to learn new things and get a better job that is obviously going to require more skills. The only thing I give myself credit for is starting an "after GC goals" list, because I have been doing things I always wanted to do and enjoying it, and crossing them off my list.
Also, I don't think you're really being jealous, I think you're just upset that other people with similar or less skills than you get to move on to better things, and that's really, very normal. I was there too, and tons of people on here go through the same thing. Life is unfair that way sometimes and it's all about how you make your lemonade out of lemons. So, my advice to you again is to use this waiting time to learn new things, even if you practice calligraphy, just keep busy, do something, so when you finally reach the end of the line you can say, f this, this took forever, but at least I don't feel like a damn loser.
Like me :D.
I know exactly how you feel because I felt that way every single day for over 8 years (look at my priority date) and even years before I sent in my i485 application. It is just the worst feeling of hopelessness and constant worry because you don't know what's going to happen and when is it going to happen, and you can't even do anything with your life because you don't know the outcome of the whole thing. I know exactly how you feel. I finally got my GC this year but I think what I went through I will never forget. I hate it when people try to make others feel better with story examples of unfortunate people from poor countries or alcoholic parents or whatever stuff of that kind, because no one who is going through something so emotionally charged as feeling like a caged bird with no future is going to take those examples and all of a sudden go AHA and feel happy, however, as someone who was where you are and who waited for over a decade to get to the final point, I can tell you what I now know I should have done while I was waiting. I should have learned a language, I should have read more, I should have acquired more hobbies, I should have learned some extra computer skills. I finally got my card and I have to start from zero because I spent so much time just concentrating on my job and my misery and on other superficial things, and now, in order to finally move on I am home on the 1st of the year surrounded be a million "how to" books in order to be able to learn new things and get a better job that is obviously going to require more skills. The only thing I give myself credit for is starting an "after GC goals" list, because I have been doing things I always wanted to do and enjoying it, and crossing them off my list.
Also, I don't think you're really being jealous, I think you're just upset that other people with similar or less skills than you get to move on to better things, and that's really, very normal. I was there too, and tons of people on here go through the same thing. Life is unfair that way sometimes and it's all about how you make your lemonade out of lemons. So, my advice to you again is to use this waiting time to learn new things, even if you practice calligraphy, just keep busy, do something, so when you finally reach the end of the line you can say, f this, this took forever, but at least I don't feel like a damn loser.
Like me :D.
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subnet75
02-15 09:39 PM
Iam also in Same bote , three years Degree with 2 years PG diploma with 14 years of industry experiance , Planning to do MBA , which i am looking for cheapest and fast.
can any one see this Western Governors University (wgu.edu) got a MBA in IT. looks per sem... they are charging flat $3000.00. Is this ok to get MS from here (Distance Education) , or not suggestable with this University. All am looking for just to move EB2.
Appreciate any Suggestions.
thanks,
Rao
can any one see this Western Governors University (wgu.edu) got a MBA in IT. looks per sem... they are charging flat $3000.00. Is this ok to get MS from here (Distance Education) , or not suggestable with this University. All am looking for just to move EB2.
Appreciate any Suggestions.
thanks,
Rao
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desidas
02-01 12:28 PM
Gurus,
At PortOfEntry, CBP officers are QUESTIONING IF you are working for the sponsoring employer and many folks just switched jobs with AC-21 with no valid H1B anymore.
Questions:
1. What are the Consequences at Port of Entry on travelling with AP and NOT working for the ORIGINAL GC sponsor?
2. Can anyone share thier experience what was the outcome at Port of Entry when the answer is "NO - I am not working with sponsoring employer anymore" Were they held at Portof Entry indefinitely ?
3. What Steps can anyone take when at CBP office/Immigration Official is NOT allowing you to re-enter US on Valid AP (I-485 pending) and you are NOT working for sponsoring employer and no valid H1B?
At PortOfEntry, CBP officers are QUESTIONING IF you are working for the sponsoring employer and many folks just switched jobs with AC-21 with no valid H1B anymore.
Questions:
1. What are the Consequences at Port of Entry on travelling with AP and NOT working for the ORIGINAL GC sponsor?
2. Can anyone share thier experience what was the outcome at Port of Entry when the answer is "NO - I am not working with sponsoring employer anymore" Were they held at Portof Entry indefinitely ?
3. What Steps can anyone take when at CBP office/Immigration Official is NOT allowing you to re-enter US on Valid AP (I-485 pending) and you are NOT working for sponsoring employer and no valid H1B?
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gsc999
05-25 02:13 PM
Here is my draft, any other thoughts, suggestions are welcome:
Call to Action for all legal employment based prospective immigrants.
Come and support us during our Advocacy Day event in Washington DC on Monday, June 7th and Tuesday, June 8th. You can show help by donating your time/money/others. Do not let this opportunity pass you by.
Call to Action for all legal employment based prospective immigrants.
Come and support us during our Advocacy Day event in Washington DC on Monday, June 7th and Tuesday, June 8th. You can show help by donating your time/money/others. Do not let this opportunity pass you by.
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pmpforgc
07-14 10:51 PM
Because of my one of the diseases I am always worried about DISABILITY insurance.
I always try to get Short term and Long Term disability insurances through employer.
But the problem is they always start with long preexisting exlusions and when you change jobs they dont continue so have to start new one which also has other new preexisting exlusions to start.
You can convert your longterm disability to the personal policy if you have that for long time. but they are not valid if you get new job.
Is there any private/personal (not employer sponsored) Short and long term DISABILITY Insurance policies that we can purchase out side of the job.? How are the premiums? Are they reliable?
also do any of you know case where LIFE INSURANCE was actually paid and how easy/hard the process was for family?
Also similar experiences if some one know if any one used DISABILITY INSURANCE and how hard it was?
I always try to get Short term and Long Term disability insurances through employer.
But the problem is they always start with long preexisting exlusions and when you change jobs they dont continue so have to start new one which also has other new preexisting exlusions to start.
You can convert your longterm disability to the personal policy if you have that for long time. but they are not valid if you get new job.
Is there any private/personal (not employer sponsored) Short and long term DISABILITY Insurance policies that we can purchase out side of the job.? How are the premiums? Are they reliable?
also do any of you know case where LIFE INSURANCE was actually paid and how easy/hard the process was for family?
Also similar experiences if some one know if any one used DISABILITY INSURANCE and how hard it was?
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BrightOlive
03-06 02:29 PM
I even has the print out from USCIS.gov in which they have mentioned that they will honor the date on which applications were received in the mail room but he did not budge.
Can someone point me to this document?
Can someone point me to this document?
Humhongekamyab
01-15 03:35 PM
i'll take this as joke.
Trust me, if he wants to kill you, he won't ask for your money.
If he asks for your money/car, he doesn't intend to kill you.
You think anybody can mug 'sledge hammer'?
Trust me, if he wants to kill you, he won't ask for your money.
If he asks for your money/car, he doesn't intend to kill you.
You think anybody can mug 'sledge hammer'?
javadeveloper
12-31 04:22 PM
You are absolutely right, It�s nature and as you said and I quote �nature created nature which is created by nature and so on...�
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
I feel comfortable with these words "Nature Bless everyone" ,Not with the words like "God Bless everyone".
May be As a Hindu I'll start visualizing Shiva/Vishnu/brahma/Rama/Krishna etc.. when someone says "GOD" .For Christians they may start visualizing Jesus and Allah for Muslims.
And for some people to which you call �nature� they call it �God�
Just different terminology, they do the prayer of nature (for some its God) and they never judge the acts of nature (God).
I feel comfortable with these words "Nature Bless everyone" ,Not with the words like "God Bless everyone".
May be As a Hindu I'll start visualizing Shiva/Vishnu/brahma/Rama/Krishna etc.. when someone says "GOD" .For Christians they may start visualizing Jesus and Allah for Muslims.
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